(07-10-2011 08:30 PM)Rey Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2011 08:17 PM)smoker guy Wrote: [ -> ]One of my pet peeves is something Boomer & I were talking about on the photography thread. This is being snubbed by other motorcyclists for not riding what they ride. It seems to me that if someone waves to you at least try to wave back. I know this can be difficult but I was snubbed by fellow BMW riders a few weeks back. I donlt care what anyone rides...I will always try to return a wave if one is sent my way. This is blatant wave discrimination I say! LOL!
So, if a guy is riding a moped wearing a too small Pee Wee Herman suit, and he enthusiastically waves at you while stopped at a stoplight, in full view of a convertible full of hot looking chicks, do you wave back at him?
LOL!!!!!
(07-10-2011 08:30 PM)Rey Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2011 08:17 PM)smoker guy Wrote: [ -> ]One of my pet peeves is something Boomer & I were talking about on the photography thread. This is being snubbed by other motorcyclists for not riding what they ride. It seems to me that if someone waves to you at least try to wave back. I know this can be difficult but I was snubbed by fellow BMW riders a few weeks back. I donlt care what anyone rides...I will always try to return a wave if one is sent my way. This is blatant wave discrimination I say! LOL!
So, if a guy is riding a moped wearing a too small Pee Wee Herman suit, and he enthusiastically waves at you while stopped at a stoplight, in full view of a convertible full of hot looking chicks, do you wave back at him?
Sure thing. I even have waved at a woman on one of those laid back bikes who waved to me. Besides...I like Pee Wee Herman, he`s silly.

When I'm out on my walk -- along a road that is popular with motorcyclists as it's nice and curvy -- I will flash the low "V" sign to all the riders I see. I like to be friendly even if I'm not a cycle rider. I figure that I would like for others to be friendly to my Hubby on his bike so I'm friendly to other cycle riders. I usually get one back, or a nod if it's on a curve.
Grrr... my rant/peeve today.
The youngest is trying very hard to be independent from us and the need for a newer car is in the future. She and her boyfriend searched around and found one that would be in her budget(she wanted to get a loan and start a history of good credit).
She and I both work at the same bank, but different offices so getting a loan and at a excellent rate wasn't an issue I would just have to co-sign with her. So she went on last Friday got all the pre-stuff done at the car dealer and put a small deposit down, signed all the dealer papers. She let them know that they had to wait until the check and insurance were inplace and ready for pick up on this Wed. The salesman told her that if there were to be any problems call asap and she told him(already having talked to one of the loan officers) that there wasn't a problem just waiting on getting the paperwork ready to which he said not to worry then see you on Wed.
This morn we go to sign all the papers and to the insurance agent to get her insurance ready so as soon as the keys were handed over she'd be insured. We spent the day together and at 4:30 recieves a call from the dealer telling her since she didn't phone on Monday that they had sold the car. She was flabergasted and asked why and he said" well on the contract you had until 6 Monday nite to confirm or decline". He then said "oh but we do have another car that you looked at on the lot are you interested?"(it of course was out of the $$ budget) She asked do I get my money back and he said whenever you can make it up to the dealership.
She's now crying because she thought she had done everything right and was excited in getting a "new to her" car. I redlined and called telling the salesman that he may have screwed with a 18 year old, but now he's dealing with the mother aka co-signer. I told him that he could Fed-EX or whatever at his expense in 24 hours to my place of employment a check made out to her and that they will bring it to her, not her going to them.
He then in a weedling/self rightous voice says "well she should have know that she had to confirm by Monday nite in order for the contract to be valid". I in furious voice said "you knew she put the money down as good faith agreement and shook hands and that it was a done deal just waiting until Wed. for the check , so you will be delivering back her money in check to her". He questioned why it should be sent to the bank instead of the home address and I told him because it is where I want the check sent and said the reason wasn't his concern just that it arrives in 24 hours.
So now we'll see what happens. Thanks for letting me vent.
Car salesmen...grrr. I hope she gets her money back tomorrow.
2Beers-
I don't know if it's the same in all states, but when my son bought his 1st new car, I co-signed for him (we lived in CA at the time). He was excited about building his credit and never missed a payment. One day he checked his credit score and there was NOTHING showing the car loan. When I did some checking, I found out the co-signer is the one who's credit is affected NOT the signer.
We have since found out that when buying a car, go through the internet department at the dealer. You don't have to deal with bottom-dwelling salesmen, and you get a better deal. Take in a computer printout of their quote and any others from competing dealers. If you have a trade-in, go to Kelley Blue Book, plug in the info for the trade and bring the printout for that as well. You'll get more $$$ for your trade.
Oh, that is just really low! Your daughter must feel awful. She DID do everything right but there are always jerks who don't. I completely understand the Mom going on the warpath... done that a few times my own self. Please let us know that her money was returned. And give her a hug from us.
Make sure to file a report with the Better Business Bureau as well...even if she does get her money back.
Thanks everyone. Her boyfriend did as Nettie said and also contacted other business sites leting them know about the dealership. Oh Gunga we know about the Kelley prices, but with working at the bank we use their website of "book" price which is a little different then the Kelley version. Her existing car isn't worth much and a local ship will give her the price it's worth for scrap metal(Hubby says the price is fair). So now the hunt is on again and I told her that this wasn't ment to be her car. On the brightside the paperwork for the credit and etcs are done so the loan officers told her as soon as she finds another it's just getting the info and that paperwork printed.
(07-13-2011 09:04 AM)2Beers Wrote: [ -> ]So now the hunt is on again and I told her that this wasn't ment to be her car.
That's an excellent piece of advice and one I used a few times while shopping for cars with Daughter #2 last year. She was very disappointed when a few deals fell through, but thrilled when we finally landed her a good car. She calls it a grandmother car (2002 Volvo S80), but didn't have a scratch on her when a car T boned her at 40MPH on the driver's side!