(09-29-2011 11:06 AM)Gnawin Nawlins Wrote: [ -> ]Right you are there Vincent! I got a DW7000 double pedal after replacing my set last year, and it still plays and looks like new! I'd tried the Tama Cobra, and even the old Ludwig "Squeak Kings" our host used to use, but NOTHING compares to DW, hardware or drums! Though I must confess, the drums are still WAY out of my price range! (Still, got the Tama's!)
Tama is great too. My brother Joe plays a Star Classic maple kit and it sounds fantastic. I have a vintage Speed King; obsolete but totally cool!
(09-29-2011 11:26 AM)Nung Wrote: [ -> ] (09-29-2011 11:06 AM)Gnawin Nawlins Wrote: [ -> ]Right you are there Vincent! I got a DW7000 double pedal after replacing my set last year, and it still plays and looks like new! I'd tried the Tama Cobra, and even the old Ludwig "Squeak Kings" our host used to use, but NOTHING compares to DW, hardware or drums! Though I must confess, the drums are still WAY out of my price range! (Still, got the Tama's!)
Truly, DW hardware is superb. I have a smattering of their gear on my mondo-set. Their pedals are perhaps the best products they make. Their remote hat is one of my favorite pieces. But, they don't cover every angle. After trying for years to master their two pedals/two beaters on one bass drum approach (I never tried two bass drums) I switched over to the SONOR Giant Step pedal. It has two beaters but only one pedal...the front part of the pedal operates one beater and the heel portion is hinged so it can operate the other beater. Presto! One pedal allows not only double whammys but also seems more intuitive to me. The concept of using only the right foot seems so much easier and the toe/heel concept is already sort of familiar to most of us. It allows some really fun approaches to "double bass.' Yes, there is a learning curve but it seems easier than training Mr. Stupid-Left-Foot to move back and forth between a hat and a bass drum. I encourage you to check it out. And it is very well made...those Germans KNOW hardware. They also have other versions of the pedal that take you to crazy-land (like THREE beaters/two pedals).
What is better than drumming? (Yeah, I know but we cannot talk about THAT here!)
My son told me about the "triple pedals" totally "off the cuff."
(09-29-2011 07:56 PM)Scythe Matters Wrote: [ -> ]Okay drummers, I have a question - and bear with me now, because I don't know the proper terminology....
I was listening to Bubba and the Boys' version of Crossroads last night (LOVE that song!!) and there's a fill Bubba plays just after Lerxst's second shredding session to get them back into the verse. It's a series of doubles: 1--2, 1-2, 1--2, 1-2... (my descriptive prowess is woefully lacking here). I've heard this fill before in R&B music but the only one I can remember clearly is during the Blue Brothers movie: Jake & Ellwood crawl behind the drum riser during the big show, talk to the Willie Hall and, as they crawl into the trap, Willie plays this fill.
So I figured that if anyone could tell me about it, it's the drummers here at the B&G. 
I think those might be classic triplets if it's what I'm thinking. That version of crossroads was better than Cream and Summertime Blues was better than the Who version. I wonder what it feels like to outperform your influences...
(09-29-2011 07:56 PM)Scythe Matters Wrote: [ -> ]Okay drummers, I have a question - and bear with me now, because I don't know the proper terminology....
I was listening to Bubba and the Boys' version of Crossroads last night (LOVE that song!!) and there's a fill Bubba plays just after Lerxst's second shredding session to get them back into the verse. It's a series of doubles: 1--2, 1-2, 1--2, 1-2... (my descriptive prowess is woefully lacking here). I've heard this fill before in R&B music but the only one I can remember clearly is during the Blue Brothers movie: Jake & Ellwood crawl behind the drum riser during the big show, talk to the Willie Hall and, as they crawl into the trap, Willie plays this fill.
So I figured that if anyone could tell me about it, it's the drummers here at the B&G.
Sounds to me like a combination of 1/8 and 1/16th notes played in a manner of R-R-RL R-R-RL ... at least, that's how I played along to it, and with the racket, it's hard to discern the nuances going on with my inferior Altec Lansing computer speakers at hand.
Yeah snapdad, I might not be thinking of the right part.
I saw Bubba perform that at PNC New Jersey,Virginia Beach and Jones Beach, LI for the R30tour. Though he might not admit it, he nailed every fill in those songs. "Feedback" has a special place in my heart. I was thinking of the budala budala budala part prior to the instrumental in Snakes and Arrows. Shame on me for not knowing the song titles by heart!
My brother recently visited Long Island Drum Center and told me that they are selling a limited edition set of four of Bubba's snares in a road case, certificates of authenticity, used on tour, etc. Apparently there are only a few worldwide. Has anyone heard of this? Not that I could afford even one!
(10-01-2011 06:20 AM)VincentUlyssis Wrote: [ -> ]My brother recently visited Long Island Drum Center and told me that they are selling a limited edition set of four of Bubba's snares in a road case, certificates of authenticity, used on tour, etc. Apparently there are only a few worldwide. Has anyone heard of this? Not that I could afford even one!
Vincent-I did some checking online and found that if you subscribe FREE to idrum, you are automatically entered to the contest to WIN them. It didn't say when the contest ended though. You get 4 snares in a road case:Starman, Snakes and Arrows, Time Machine, and Bubba's 1st drum. Also included is a set of Sabian cymbals and a block of Bubba's sticks. It said it was all worth 15K. From what I read, there are a few drum shops that have the goods on display around the world. Anyway, it's free, and just how cool would it be to win
I never seem to win Mega Millions, so I figure I probably wouldn't win that. It does look like a very sweet combination!
This is my mid - life crisis. I always wanted to learn to play the drums. My wife and daughter are getting me a set this Christmas. I will be taking lessions because I want to play them correctly. Does anybody have any suggestions on what brand I should get? Thanks.
Hi Phillip,
It depends what you want to do with it. For just playing home a TAMA Rockstar probably would suffice. If you really want to do it then I suggest a maple kit. My suggestion? Buy a used maple kit. It would cost the same as a new "average" kit but sound as great as a new "maple kit."
A toast, if I may to Freddie!
(10-12-2011 09:40 AM)Phillip Wrote: [ -> ]This is my mid - life crisis. I always wanted to learn to play the drums. My wife and daughter are getting me a set this Christmas. I will be taking lessions because I want to play them correctly. Does anybody have any suggestions on what brand I should get? Thanks.
Vicent is correct on the maple choice Phiilp, especially on the snare drum. I still have my set of Tama Rockstars, which are a combination of basswoods and birch, making them LOUD, especially with the right head combination and correct tuning. I've used them for years at gigs and in the studio a few times, and have had no complaints. Of course, if you're into the high end stuff, bubinga (relation?) wood will give you overall tonality and warmth, but you may have to mortgage your house! Good luck with the lessons, start slow, and get those rudiments down!
While you cannot go wrong with maple, I think the bigger picture is worth exploring. As our hero (Bubba) understands, the concept of tonewoods and their affect on drum sound is complex. There are quite a few choices besides maple (and that doesn't even consider blends of woods, construction methods, amount of plys, sizes of the drums, etc.)
I am a fan of birch. It tends to be thought of as a wood that is excellent for recording purposes. Maple is often thought of as the perfect wood for live use. I prefer the tone signature of birch for all uses. There are some excellent tutorials out there, by all means please avail yourself to them and above all, go out and LISTEN to various sets. Play them yourself but don't forget to let others play the set for you. What a set sounds like from behind the kit is often different from what the listeners (and mics) hear.
Have fun!!