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(02-09-2013 12:49 PM)MAL_ONE Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2013 08:12 PM)Mufasa Wrote: [ -> ]Scott Rockenfield (that him?) The one that I saw interviewed had chains as stands and booms and such - chromed, of course.
The question was asked if he and the bassist wrote everything out, or just left it to chance.
The reply was, "We leaving nothing to chance. Nothing."

That's funny,,, but apparently ture as they have given Geoff Tate
the boot. Too bad, another old band with a new singer. It never is
the same with a new voice and different look. Oh well,,,

According to Geoff, they fired him, his wife, and daughter because the rest of the band felt he was taking too much of the profits.
My brother Joe and I were at an "Aerosmith" concert a few years back and we met this guy Michael (the famous one) who turned us onto a band Porcupine Tree (This is a true story). I had never heard of them but they were on the playlist for the pre-concert and they rocked.

So happens my neighbor John across the street is a prog fan who has turned me on to an array of such cool bands. The other night he played Porcupine Tree's "Blackest Eyes." This is my new favorite song. What a great combination of heavy riffs, acoustic melodic vocals, colorful harmony, etc. That opening riff rocks the house. I love it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OuCoEC3sRA
(02-10-2013 06:59 PM)VincentUlyssis Wrote: [ -> ]My brother Joe and I were at an "Aerosmith" concert a few years back and we met this guy Michael (the famous one) who turned us onto a band Porcupine Tree (This is a true story). I had never heard of them but they were on the playlist for the pre-concert and they rocked.

So happens my neighbor John across the street is a prog fan who has turned me on to an array of such cool bands. The other night he played Porcupine Tree's "Blackest Eyes." This is my new favorite song. What a great combination of heavy riffs, acoustic melodic vocals, colorful harmony, etc. That opening riff rocks the house. I love it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OuCoEC3sRA

I've been digging P.T. lately myself. I first read the name in one of Bubba's writings a few years ago and said to myself "well, if he digs it, I suppose I should give them a listen". Their drummer, Gavin Harrison, was part of Letterman's "drum week" the same week Bubba was, I believe.
A bit of a mix today but mostly some newer Marillion in anticipation of this years convention in Montreal. Also just played Jacob Moon's version of Subdivions in prep. for him opening on Saturday night of the convention I think thats March 23 if anyone is interested Wink. I have been to the last two conventions and actually Jacob being there was the main draw for me this year.
(02-09-2013 06:29 PM)smoker guy Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-09-2013 12:49 PM)MAL_ONE Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2013 08:12 PM)Mufasa Wrote: [ -> ]Scott Rockenfield (that him?) The one that I saw interviewed had chains as stands and booms and such - chromed, of course.
The question was asked if he and the bassist wrote everything out, or just left it to chance.
The reply was, "We leaving nothing to chance. Nothing."

That's funny,,, but apparently ture as they have given Geoff Tate
the boot. Too bad, another old band with a new singer. It never is
the same with a new voice and different look. Oh well,,,

According to Geoff, they fired him, his wife, and daughter because the rest of the band felt he was taking too much of the profits.

Supposedly he had made a deal with a film company over their Operation
Mindcrime release and hadn't clued the band in on any of it. The band
held a meeting, in which Geoff didn't show up ~ and fired his wife,
daughter and son-in-law. They told him about it minutes before they
were to go on stage in Brazil. Tate was upset and had to be restrained
by security at one point because he was trying to attack his
bandmates.What's peculiar about this story, is that many of he "diehard"
Ryche fans are siding with the other members and only criticize Tate for
his outburst.

I tell ya though, if I had worked for a company for 30 years and they
canned my wife and kid behind my back,,, I'd be a little upset too ! Angry , Big Grin
(02-12-2013 02:21 PM)MAL_ONE Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-09-2013 06:29 PM)smoker guy Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-09-2013 12:49 PM)MAL_ONE Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2013 08:12 PM)Mufasa Wrote: [ -> ]Scott Rockenfield (that him?) The one that I saw interviewed had chains as stands and booms and such - chromed, of course.
The question was asked if he and the bassist wrote everything out, or just left it to chance.
The reply was, "We leaving nothing to chance. Nothing."

That's funny,,, but apparently ture as they have given Geoff Tate
the boot. Too bad, another old band with a new singer. It never is
the same with a new voice and different look. Oh well,,,

According to Geoff, they fired him, his wife, and daughter because the rest of the band felt he was taking too much of the profits.

Supposedly he had made a deal with a film company over their Operation
Mindcrime release and hadn't clued the band in on any of it. The band
held a meeting, in which Geoff didn't show up ~ and fired his wife,
daughter and son-in-law. They told him about it minutes before they
were to go on stage in Brazil. Tate was upset and had to be restrained
by security at one point because he was trying to attack his
bandmates.What's peculiar about this story, is that many of he "diehard"
Ryche fans are siding with the other members and only criticize Tate for
his outburst.

I tell ya though, if I had worked for a company for 30 years and they
canned my wife and kid behind my back,,, I'd be a little upset too ! Angry , Big Grin

Most understandably upset. I only heard his side on That Metal Show. I do know a large number of the fan base has been upset with their work on all releases after Promise Land. I was not a particular fan of albums after Promise through Q2k. Tribe was good, Mindcrime 2 had some good stuff, and American Soldier was really strong. Dedicated 2 Chaos I haven't heard yet, just some clips of songs.
Most understandably upset. I only heard his side on That Metal Show. I do know a large number of the fan base has been upset with their work on all releases after Promise Land. I was not a particular fan of albums after Promise through Q2k. Tribe was good, Mindcrime 2 had some good stuff, and American Soldier was really strong. Dedicated 2 Chaos I haven't heard yet, just some clips of songs.
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Ahh,,,,,,Dedicated to Chaos.
I had heard so many bad things about that album that it actually sparked
my interest. I know that for most listeners, they need to have the equivalent
of a sugar fix when it comes to music. They have to love it right off the
bat or they hate it with a passion. For me,,, I find that (musically)most things I like
right away, I do not like for very long. Seeing that music is an art form,
it sometimes takes me awhile to understand where the artist is coming from.
Dedicated to Chaos... not your typical Queensryche album (but then again,
there is no typical Queensryche album), took me many listenings to see
where this was coming from. As it turned out, I love that album. I liken it
to be one of their best. It certainly isn't heavy metal, but it is very artistical, (whew,,,,almost said testicle Big Grin )
and extremely worthy of being in their catalog.

From my viewpoint, the album (and Queensryche in general) failed because
of bad/lack of marketing. They have changed over the years, and
most of their fan base (the diehards) don't like that they aren't metal anymore.
Financial success has more to do with marketing then raw
talent, unfortunately. That is the way it is,,, look at the top 20.
That being said, they never should have tried to sell it to that fan base. They should have tried
to recapture the masses that bought into Silent Lucidity.
From what I hear,,, there was an opportunity, in recent years, to have Ray Daniels manage the band,,,
one that they turned down. Too bad,,, I am sure if they had
gotten him, this whole mess would have never happened.
As we have it, another band that was really good at one time has
fallen by the way side.Too bad,,,
I wouldn't pass on any of their work without giving it a chance first. I read horrid teviews of both Mindcrime 2 & Soldier, yet solidly enjoyed both. I wasn't a fan of either Hear In The Now Frontier or Q2k, but I do respect the efforts. I would be more upset if they stayed stuck regurgitating Rage or Mindcrime styled albums. I'll give Chaos a listen one of these days yet. Wink
(02-12-2013 07:45 PM)smoker guy Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't pass on any of their work without giving it a chance first. I read horrid teviews of both Mindcrime 2 & Soldier, yet solidly enjoyed both. I wasn't a fan of either Hear In The Now Frontier or Q2k, but I do respect the efforts. I would be more upset if they stayed stuck regurgitating Rage or Mindcrime styled albums. I'll give Chaos a listen one of these days yet. Wink

I know what you mean. While I like some of the songs on Hear in the Now,,,
its production quality was sub par.
Many of the "diehards" are joyous of the new singer because he can hit
the notes on the old songs really well and the group is promising to take
them back to their roots; Tate is 53 with grandkids and been touring for
30+ years. I give the guy a break because I know what it is like to get
older Cool
Anyways,,,, when you get around to Dedicated to Chaos,,,
give it a few extra spins just in case.
Here is a link to one of my favorites off the disc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxtxdOt3P0w

All the best,
greg
You know I'm jamming to American Soldier now. LOL!!! Have you ever listened to any of Peter Murphy's stuff? He was the lead singer of Bauhaus and has a VERY unique voice.
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